A while ago, Subi Vapor's owner Beau Pracilio, joined the forum here, a midst a cloud of controversy. More specifically, he claimed his products had been 6 years in development & were "best in class". This peaked my curiosity, never one to not give a new product a chance to impress, I posted a challenge & PM'd Beau for some samples to review. Beau agreed & sent me the samples free for this review. I received 2x disposable kits & 1x rechargeable kit. The Disposable kits consist of 1x disposable cartomiser & 1x disposable cigalike battery. The Rechargeable kits consist of 1x rechargeable cigalike battery, 3x disposable cartomisers & 1x USB charger. Both the rechargeable & disposable batteries look very similar, the only visible difference appears to be the word "vapor" which is in the same large lettering as "Subi" on the rechargeable stick, while being much smaller on the disposable stick. I would have liked to have seen more differentiation between the 2 sticks, trying to recharge a disposable battery can be very dangerous & both batteries will screw onto the charger easily. I did test to see if the disposable would try to charge & it appeared to do so for the split second I had it on the charger. Since I do not want battery acid & bits of shrapnel potentially spraying out from the charger I was quick to remove it. I would like to see protection built into the charger to recognise that the wrong battery is attached & for it to fail to attempt to charge the disposable battery. Both versions of the batteries are auto puffers, meaning they fire when you puff on them, there is no button to press & hold, when you puff the end glows green to let you know the battery is firing. The end also glows green on the rechargeable stick, while recharging, the LED on the charger itself is the indicator for when the battery is charged, red = charging, green = charged. The cartomisers in both kits have the same threading, which is not 510 threading, I am unsure if it is proprietary or 808 threading, since I have no 808 threaded devices to check this against. Either way, it would have been nice to be able to use more popular 510 threaded, refillable cartos, like the Boges I have stored away, to get a better idea of how the cartos perform in of themselves. The carto length is somewhere between a regular & XL Boge carto length. The cartos are designed with a "hard cap", much like the old hard cap Boges & like the hard cap Boges the cap can be forcibly removed for refilling, this is not as easy as it is with the soft caps but it can be done. Using a jewelers screwdriver, inserted into the air hole on the hard cap, you need to lever the cap off, the cap will crack & complain a little but it will come out without too much pressure. Once the cap is out, you can use your own 510 driptip in the end of the carto, in place of the cap. Subi vapor in use: Using the rechargeable battery & supplied 18mg/ml carto, which I am told these are not available at retail outlets with nicotine, I was chain vaping constantly for 45minutes, until the battery needed recharging & I was still in need of a decent vape. I normally vape at 24mg/ml & on devices that output much better vapor, greater in volume than I got from this cigalike. After recharging, I returned to the carto to see how much longer it would last, less than 15minutes later there was no flavor at all coming through & before it started to burn the filler material I stopped & refilled it with some 45mg/ml eliquid, just to see if this would be more satisfying. It kind of worked, I no longer needed to chain vape as much but the vapor output was low, as I would have expected, wich overall didn't satisfy as good as my 24mg/ml juice on a better device with a comparable atty. I tried to read the ohms on a carto but the battery on my multimeter was/is dead but compared to a LR Boge, the vapor production was lacking, it was more like the vape i would expect from a 2.5ohm carto. To be fair, I never really expected the vape from this device to satisfy me but I did give it every chance to prove me wrong. Similarly, I doubt many members on this forum, if any, would get a completely satisfying vape from this or most other cigalikes. So I gave one to my wife, who is a smoker to try for a day, since this product is obviously aimed at smokers wanting an alternative, rather than at vapers. She quite enjoyed it for a while but said that it made her feel sick after a while. Her feeling sick probably had little to do with the product itself & more to do with the lack of burning tobacco she was taking in. Overall: I can see where this product may interest smokers. However I feel that given 6 years of development was put into the product, better safety measures should have been employed in the charger. The difference between the rechargeable & disposable batteries is not enough IMO, it would be easy for someone who knows nothing about the dangers of recharging a disposable battery to try to recharge it & end up with serious injuries, fire or other problems. Vapers are highly unlikely to enjoy using this product & given the retail cost would be better served using their Isticks etc. As cigalikes go, these are not the most expensive on the market, far from it but they are designed to have disposable, single use cartos, which is how many people who don't know any better will treat them. This is unfortunate because the cartos are capable of being refilled & used many times, this would cut down cost to the consumer & make them more environmentally friendly.