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Urgent Call to Action Now: Victorian Anti-Vaping Bill

Discussion in 'Politics, News, Media, Campaigns' started by Dr Attila Danko, May 28, 2016.

  1. Dr Attila Danko

    Dr Attila Danko V.I.P.

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    Call to Action: Victorian Tobacco Amendment Bill

    Update: The time to write to the lower house members has passed, we now need to concentrate on the upper house members whose contact details are listed here: http://www.vapercafeaustralia.com/t...rian-anti-vaping-bill.3221/page-2#post-119440

    The time to do this is NOW, as the upper house will vote on this issue on 19th August. So get your letters in by at least the 12th August. :)

    Thanks everyone!


    In the week commencing 21st June the Victorian Government will be voting on the Tobacco Amendment Bill, which will regulate e-cigarettes the same way as tobacco products. Vendors will not be able to display their products or offer juice tasting in-house, and users will not be able to vape in smoke-free zones. Vape Meets at pubs and clubs will be banned.

    These restrictions will cripple the retail vaping industry, discourage smokers from switching to e-cigarettes and force vapers into smoking areas in public places. It sends a strong message that vaping is just as bad as smoking. In future, as even more severe restrictions are placed on smoking, vaping will be included.

    This Bill was introduced without any public consultation.

    We need to get the Liberals in the Legislative Assembly/Lower House to accept that there has not been enough consultation on this important issue, and that the Bill needs to be sent to Committee or Parliamentary Inquiry. We need to write to them WITHIN A WEEK. The Bill will go again to the Lower House/Legislative Assembly on June 8th, and we need to make sure the Liberal members are contacted before this date, the earlier the better.

    So this week, it's all about the Legislative Assembly/Lower House. If you are in a Labor seat, it's still worth writing. As a voter in their seat, a letter written directly by yourself (not a copy and paste) is thought to represent at least 200 people's opinions. A real typed or hand written letter delivered has more impact than email. Do both. It's also worth writing seperately to the Shadow Health Minister, Mary Wooldridge. She is key.

    Your Letter To Members of the Legislative Assembly (see list below)

    a) explain that you are writing about the Tobacco Amendment Bill before Victorian Parliament that would severely restrict vaping
    b) say how you think it could harm yourself and thousands of Victorian vapers
    c) give your personal story about how vaping has helped you
    d) say that this is too important to rush through without consultation and you humbly request them to reject the current Bill and subject it to an Inquiry or Committee where consultations with other public health experts, vape shops, and consumers can occur.
    e) email your letter and for maximum effect, print, sign and post it as well
    f) send your own original letter by bulk email to all Members if you wish

    Following is a list of contact details for Victorian Liberal Party Members of the Legislative Assembly (Lower House). Details for all members will be added shortly.

    Victorian Legislative Assembly (Liberal Party)

    Bulk emails
    matthew.guy@parliament.vic.gov.au
    david.hodgett@parliament.vic.gov.au
    brian.paynter@parliament.vic.gov.au
    heidi.victoria@parliament.vic.gov.au
    bill.tilley@parliament.vic.gov.au
    robert.clark@parliament.vic.gov.au
    louise.asher@parliament.vic.gov.au
    graham.watt@parliament.vic.gov.au
    david.southwick@parliament.vic.gov.au
    Cindy.McLeish@parliament.vic.gov.au
    christine.fyffe@parliament.vic.gov.au
    nick.wakeling@parliament.vic.gov.au
    neil.angus@parliament.vic.gov.au
    Brad.Battin@parliament.vic.gov.au
    neale.burgess@parliament.vic.gov.au
    john.pesutto@parliament.vic.gov.au
    tim.smith@parliament.vic.gov.au
    michael.obrien@parliament.vic.gov.au
    david.morris@parliament.vic.gov.au
    michael.gidley@parliament.vic.gov.au
    gary.blackwood@parliament.vic.gov.au
    martin.dixon@parliament.vic.gov.au
    richard.riordan@parliament.vic.gov.au
    Dee.Ryall@parliament.vic.gov.au
    louise.staley@parliament.vic.gov.au
    Kim.Wells@parliament.vic.gov.au
    murray.thompson@parliament.vic.gov.au
    andrew.katos@parliament.vic.gov.au
    roma.britnell@parliament.vic.gov.au
    ryan.smith@parliament.vic.gov.au


    Matthew Guy - Leader of the Opposition (Bulleen)
    matthew.guy@parliament.vic.gov.au
    https://www.facebook.com/MatthewGuyMP
    https://twitter.com/MatthewGuyMP
    Shop 30D, Bulleen Plaza, 101 Manningham Road, Bulleen, VIC 3105

    David Hodgett - Deputy Leader (Croydon)
    david.hodgett@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/davidhodgettmp
    http://twitter.com/DavidHodgettMP
    60 Main St
    Croydon VIC 3136

    Brian Paynter (Bass)
    brian.paynter@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/BrianPaynterBass
    http://twitter.com/brianpaynterlib
    26 McBride Avenue
    Wonthaggi 3995

    Heidi Victoria (Bayswater)
    heidi.victoria@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/pages/Heidi-Victoria-MP/130177900357309
    http://twitter.com/heidivic
    2/40 Station St
    Bayswater VIC 3153

    Bill Tilley (Benambra)
    bill.tilley@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/BillTilleyMP
    14 Stanley Street
    Wodonga VIC 3690

    Robert Clark (Box Hill)
    robert.clark@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/robert.clark.mp
    http://twitter.com/RobertClarkMP
    24 Rutland Road
    Box Hill VIC 3128

    Louise Asher (Brighton)
    louise.asher@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://twitter.com/LouiseAsherMP
    315 New Street
    Brighton VIC 3186

    Graham Watt (Burwood)
    graham.watt@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/grahamwattmp
    http://twitter.com/GrahamWattMP
    1342 Toorak Road
    Camberwell 3124

    David Southwick (Caulfied)
    david.southwick@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/southwickmp
    http://twitter.com/SouthwickMP
    Suite 1,
    193 Balaclava Road
    Caulfield North
    VIC 3161

    Cindy McLeish (Eildon)
    Cindy.McLeish@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/CindyMcLeishMP
    http://twitter.com/CindyMcLeishMP
    Shop 10
    38-40 Bell Street
    Yarra Glen 3775

    Christine Fyffe (Evelyn)
    christine.fyffe@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/ChristineFyffeMP
    143 Main Street
    Lilydale VIC 3140

    Nick Wakeling (Ferntree Gully)
    nick.wakeling@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/NickWakeling
    http://twitter.com/NickWakelingMP
    Unit 4,
    91 Dorset Road
    Ferntree Gully
    VIC 3156

    Neil Angus (Forest Hill)
    neil.angus@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/NeilAngusMLA
    4 Lawrence Street
    Blackburn South
    VIC 3130

    Brad Battin (Gembrook)
    Brad.Battin@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/BradBattinMP
    http://twitter.com/BradBattinMP
    Suite 5,
    6-8 Langmore Lane
    Berwick VIC 3806

    Neale Burgess (Hastings)
    neale.burgess@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/nealeburgessmp
    http://twitter.com/NealeBurgess
    6 Eramosa Road
    Somerville VIC 3912

    John Pesutto (Hawthorn)
    john.pesutto@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/JohnPesutto
    http://twitter.com/JohnPesutto
    325 Camberwell Road
    Camberwell, VIC 3124

    Tim Smith (Kew)
    tim.smith@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/TimSmithKew
    http://twitter.com/TimSmithMP
    Suite 1/ 400 High Street
    Kew 3101

    Michael O'Brien (Malvern)
    michael.obrien@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://twitter.com/michaelobrienmp
    313 Waverley Road
    Malvern East 3145

    David Morris (Mornington)
    david.morris@parliament.vic.gov.au
    321 Main Street
    Mornington
    VIC 3931

    Michael Gidley (Mount Waverley)
    michael.gidley@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/michaelgidley
    http://twitter.com/michaelgidley
    Suite 1, 40 Montclair Ave
    Glen Waverley 3150

    Gary Blackwood (Narracan)
    gary.blackwood@parliament.vic.gov.au
    3/24 Mason Street
    Warragul VIC 3820

    Martin Dixon (Nepean)
    martin.dixon@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/garyblackwoodmp
    http://twitter.com/GaryBlackwoodMP
    PO Box 250
    McCrae VIC 3938

    Richard Riordan (Polwarth)
    richard.riordan@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/RichardRiordanforPolwarth
    115A Bromfield Street
    Colac, VIC 3250

    Dee Ryall (Ringwood)
    Dee.Ryall@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/DeeRyallMP
    http://twitter.com/DeeRyall
    44 New Street
    Ringwood 3134

    Louise Staley (Ripon)
    louise.staley@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/LouiseStaleyRipon
    http://twitter.com/louisestaley
    177 High Street
    Maryborough 3465

    Kim Wells (Rowville)
    Kim.Wells@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/KimWellsMP
    http://twitter.com/kimwellsmp
    9 Lynton Place
    Scoresby 3179

    Murray Thompson (Sandringham)
    murray.thompson@parliament.vic.gov.au
    Suite 3,
    56-60 Bay Road
    Sandringham
    VIC 3191

    Andrew Katos (South Barwon)
    andrew.katos@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/AndrewKatosforSouthBarwon
    http://twitter.com/andrewkatosmp
    152 High Street
    Belmont VIC 3216

    Roma Britnell (South-West Coast)
    roma.britnell@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/RomaBritnellforSWC
    http://twitter.com/RomaBritnell
    94 Liebig Street
    Warrnambool 3280

    Ryan Smith (Warrandyte)
    ryan.smith@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/MPRyanSmith
    Suite 2, 1020 Doncaster Road
    Doncaster East 3109


    Shadow Health Minister (Legislative Council)
    Mary Wooldridge - (Eastern Metropolitan Region)
    mary.wooldridge@parliament.vic.gov.au
    http://facebook.com/MaryWooldridgeMP
    http://twitter.com/mary_wooldridge
    PO Box 428, Blackburn, VIC 3130
     
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  2. Dr Attila Danko

    Dr Attila Danko V.I.P.

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  4. Angela

    Angela ...

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    People who are active on Twitter and Facebook, it would be great if you could share the OP, or link to the thread. We need as many people as possible on board with this. Time is of the essence!
     
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  5. laurie9300

    laurie9300 Photoshop Whore

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    Please advise again if it is worth interstate people doing anything, will they have an effect?

    If so how should the outline differ?
     
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  6. Jennifer

    Jennifer Pyjama Queen

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    I was wondering that too.
     
  7. Angela

    Angela ...

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    Just omit that you live in their electorate. If you're sending by email there's no way of telling which state you're in.
     
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  8. Angela

    Angela ...

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    OP amended.
    Help from people in every State would be very much appreciated. Thankyou. :)
     
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  9. Angela

    Angela ...

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    For interstaters if you write one letter you can send it by bulk email to the following Liberal Members. I was able to send 10 at a time. At the moment we are focusing on the Liberals because we know the ALP/Greens will vote for it anyway, so we're trying to aim where we'll have the most effect.

    matthew.guy@parliament.vic.gov.au
    david.hodgett@parliament.vic.gov.au
    brian.paynter@parliament.vic.gov.au
    heidi.victoria@parliament.vic.gov.au
    bill.tilley@parliament.vic.gov.au
    robert.clark@parliament.vic.gov.au
    louise.asher@parliament.vic.gov.au
    graham.watt@parliament.vic.gov.au
    david.southwick@parliament.vic.gov.au
    Cindy.McLeish@parliament.vic.gov.au
    christine.fyffe@parliament.vic.gov.au
    nick.wakeling@parliament.vic.gov.au
    neil.angus@parliament.vic.gov.au
    Brad.Battin@parliament.vic.gov.au
    neale.burgess@parliament.vic.gov.au
    john.pesutto@parliament.vic.gov.au
    tim.smith@parliament.vic.gov.au
    michael.obrien@parliament.vic.gov.au
    david.morris@parliament.vic.gov.au
    michael.gidley@parliament.vic.gov.au
    gary.blackwood@parliament.vic.gov.au
    martin.dixon@parliament.vic.gov.au
    richard.riordan@parliament.vic.gov.au
    Dee.Ryall@parliament.vic.gov.au
    louise.staley@parliament.vic.gov.au
    Kim.Wells@parliament.vic.gov.au
    murray.thompson@parliament.vic.gov.au
    andrew.katos@parliament.vic.gov.au
    roma.britnell@parliament.vic.gov.au
    ryan.smith@parliament.vic.gov.au

    For Victorian residents the list in the OP includes postal addresses so you can write to your own MP. Snail mail is the most effective but emails are important too. A full list of all Victorian Members of all parties will be posted in the 3rd post of this thread when it has been compiled.
     
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  10. laurie9300

    laurie9300 Photoshop Whore

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    This will be done!
     
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  11. Angela

    Angela ...

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    Found this in my email. pfft.

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  12. Judith

    Judith Mostly harmless

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    The usual nonsense reply which seems to be a carbon copy of the ones that Americans and Canadians get. At least she said they can be flexible about it in 20 years. Hope she has a tough conscience.
     
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  13. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

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    Perhaps instead of citing studies, which these politicians all surely know about by now, we should appeal to their consciences?
    Something along the lines of including in the letters or follow up letters, a line such as "If your plan is to wait 20 -30 years for long term data on the long term safety & health effects, can you live with the harm, deaths & suffering of people, because of your decision, who will be forced to smoke, through nicotine addiction, that otherwise would have switched to vaping if the government made it more attractive to smokers to make the switch?"

    These people have no real clue about the science behind vaping, they obviously do not fully read the literature, if they even read it at all & instead have an aide interperet & inform them. So perhaps a direct appeal to their conscience is a better approach?
     
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  14. Jennifer

    Jennifer Pyjama Queen

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    That's good Noe. I'll use that for sure.
     
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  15. Dr Attila Danko

    Dr Attila Danko V.I.P.

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    I agree with you Noe. The biggest problem is that it is very difficult to meet with them personally, but the Cancer Council and Quit and the AMA can just drop by and they'll see them again and again. Personal meetings make all the difference. They take what is said in a personal meeting as 10 times more important than what they read in an email. Quit and CC will say, "how can you live with your conscience if all these teens start smoking because you allowed them to get hooked on lolly flavoured vapour?" The only way to counter this is face to face.

    I suspect there are others on this forum besides me that might actually find it easier to get face to face meetings. I've tried, and failed many times, and I don't have the heart to keep trying at the moment. I suspect that any politician who Googles me and who watches me on Youtube might find me a little intimidating.

    I know Annette had a successful meeting recently with an MP, and is setting up another.

    Can others try? Please?

    All you need is your story. You don't need the science.
     
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  16. Posterboy

    Posterboy Senior Member

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    I've had another thought in the last day or two.
    We, vapers, have a vested interest. Some pro vape trolls do us harm politically.
    However, my partner neither smokes nor vapes, as for Attila.
    A big part of the story that I think we have under capitalised upon is our significant others. How has vaping indirectly benefited them?
    Get them to contact parliament too. They dont want to vape. They dont mind. They want us to live.
     
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  17. Judith

    Judith Mostly harmless

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    Sorry lack of skill with IPad. My post is the last paragraph.
     
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  18. Posterboy

    Posterboy Senior Member

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    What a load of unadulterated tripe. And we pay these cockheads.
     
  19. Angela

    Angela ...

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    Too little too late, but at least it's a sympathetic response.

    Dear Angela,

    Thank-you for your email. As you may be aware, this Bill passed the Legislative Assembly last week without a Division. It will now go to the Legislative Council for possible amendment although I think this is unlikely and I believe it will pass in its current form.

    A major difficulty with the Bill is that it joins well-supported new anti-tobacco smoking provisions in restaurants, with the regulation of e-cigarettes. Quite apart from any smoking-cessation benefits that may derive from e-cigarettes, I am of the view that there is insufficient evidence that they are harmful. Had the Bill simply been about regulating e-cigarettes, I suspect the Parliament may have had more diverse views expressed.

    I think it is likely the Bill will pass the Upper House and become law.

    Thank-you again for writing to me. As a former smoker and the daughter of a man who died from smoking-related lung cancer, I always try and support ways to help people stop smoking and to reduce the incidence of tobacco smoking. I would have liked to see e-cigarettes be given more of an opportunity to be available for research however at least they have not been banned outright as was also proposed.


    Louise
    Louise Staley MPwww.louisestaley.com.au |
     
  20. Dr Attila Danko

    Dr Attila Danko V.I.P.

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    Interesting that a complete ban was also proposed. Would be good to know who proposed that. Interestingly I had a long series of email discussions last year with Sarah Wishart from Quit where she eventually accepted that a total ban would have harmful consequences.
     
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